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This second part in our Sourdough Series takes our Country Sourdough Recipe and uses the concepts covered in part one to push that bread in two very different directions. We created a “less sour” loaf with mild, yet complex flavors and an acidity that stayed in the background, as well as a “more sour” loaf that was not only quite tangy but also packed with whole grain flavor.

We applied a slightly different approach to each stage of the bread making process. The loaves detailed below have been pushed fairly close to the limit of what can be accomplished without running into problems with structure or undesirable microbes.

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Mother Culture — Focus on Healthy Balance

In order to ensure the ongoing health and balance of both yeast and LAB (lactobacilli – acid producers) populations in the seed culture, we kept changes modest: cooler temps, white flour and peak maturity for our “less sour” loaf, versus warmer temps, a little acid-friendly rye flour and a more ripe maturity for the “more sour” bread. We fed our starter twice leading up to the mixing of the levain, but even after just one feed under these conditions, we noticed a difference in the stronger, more acidic aroma of the “more sour” culture.

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If there is too little acid in the ongoing culture, undesirable microbes (such as leuconostoc or mold) can multiply and infect the culture. If there is too much acidand an overripe culture, yeast populations are compromised and enzyme activity may get out of hand. To avoid this in our “more sour” loaf, we limited the proportion of whole rye flour to 20% and were careful not to go too far when allowing the culture to mature to a more ripe state.

Mother Culture

Table header 0More SourLess Sour
Flour40g unbleached white flour
10g whole grain rye flour
50g unbleached white flour
Mature Culture10g (1:5 ratio of seed to flour)
25g (1:2 ratio of seed to flour)
Water25g (50% hydration)
50g (100% hydration)
Temperature83°F (28°C)72°F (22°C)
MaturityUse about an hour after peakUse at peak

Levain – Get Ready to Encounter Salt

We made significant changes to the levain percentage for these breads. Our standard County Sourdough recipe has 16.6% of the total flour pre-fermented in the levain, our less sour version has a much smaller levain, containing only 10.5% of the total flour, while our more sour bread has a large levain containing 35% of the total flour. The reason for the difference is the presence of salt in the main dough. Salt inhibits the acid producers more than the yeast, which means that once the levain is mixed into the main dough, the ability to produce acid is somewhat diminished. To achieve a “more sour” bread, it’s important to add a larger quantity of acid and acid producers to the main dough.

For the “less sour” loaf, using a small percentage of levain not only limits the amount of acid in the loaf but also slows down fermentation. Slower fermentation allows enzymes in the flour to break down starch into sugar, further limiting the perception of a sour taste.

In addition to getting ready for the addition of salt, we have also incorporated similar maturity, temperature and flour choices as in the mother culture. For the less sour version, we use the levain a little earlier in its cycle than we could for the mother culture — when it is well-risen but has not yet reached its peak. This type of small, less ripe levain has been popularized by Chad Robertson and Ken Forkish in their bread books.

Many bakers’ normal practice is to take part of the levain and use that to perpetuate the ongoing culture. The best way to do that with a small, young levain is to take the portion needed to mix the main dough, then leave the remainder to continue to ripen to full maturity before using it to perpetuate the culture.

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More ripe, firm starter for the “more sour” loaf and less ripe, liquid starter for the “less sour” bread

Levain

Table header 0More SourLess Sour
Flour125g unbleached bread flour
25g whole grain rye flour
40g unbleached white flour
Mature Culture30g (1:5 ratio of seed to flour)
20g (1:2 ratio of seed to flour)
Water75g (50% hydration)
40g (100% hydration)
Temperature83°F (28°C)72°F (22°C)
MaturityUse about an hour after peakUse when well risen but not yet at peak
Pre-fermented Flour35.8%10.5%

Main Dough — Maturity is Key to Controlling Flavor

In considering how much whole grain to put in the overall formula for these breads, we increased the whole grain in the “more sour” loaf from 15% of the total flour up to 20%. For the less sour version, we not only reduced the proportion of non-white flour to 10%, but also switched from whole grain to high-extraction flour and omitted the acid-friendly rye altogether. High-extraction flour can be made easily at home by passing whole wheat flour through a fine strainer to remove the larger bran flakes. As Debra Wink points out, the bran in whole grains buffers acidity and allows the acid producers (LAB) to produce more acid in a more ripe culture. And rye flour produces sugars in the dough that feed the LAB that produce acetic acid, which is more flavorful and noticeable than the other main sourdough acid, lactic acid.

Since the larger levain of the “more sour” loaf carries more enzymes (that degrade protein) into the main dough, we used higher-protein bread flour (instead of AP) for the white flour portion of the loaf and added one extra fold to the bulk fermentation to help ensure good structure.

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Larger, more ripe levain for the “more sour” bread and smaller, less ripe levain for the “less sour” loaf.

Main Dough

Table header 0More SourLess Sour
Flour241g unbleached bread flour
66g whole wheat flour
377g unbleached AP flour
48g high-extraction wheat flour
Water243g (69% hydration)
278g (69% hydration)
Salt9g (1.8% of flour weight)
9g (1.8% of flour weight)
First Fermentation Temperature85°F (29°C)74°F (23°C)
MaturityRise until tripledRise until doubled
Proof Temperature85°F (29°C)74°F (23°C)

Ready to begin your own exploration of sourdough acidity? We have generally found that the most effective factors for controlling acidity in sourdough are-
1) sourdough starter maturity (the degree of ripeness)
2) the choice of temperature for the starter, levain (if using one), and the dough (warmer for more acid, cooler for less)
3) the choice of flours for the starter, levain (if using one), and the dough (whiter for less acid, more whole grain, particularly rye, for acidity)

The key to making changes is to keep them modest and use only one or two at a time, then assess how they affect other aspects of the dough before deciding which to jettison and which to embrace.

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Allan Mudembei

I followed the more sour formula but at 83 degrees F. my dough is over fermented so fast even folding every 20 minutes in stead of 30 minutes. I have not been able to get good oven spring. How long a bulk ferment is normal at 83 degrees? Should I eliminate a fold or two. I normally try to fold 4 times, but after 3 it is too late! Any suggestions?Mark

Mark

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Mark – There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to sourdough fermentation. Much of it is observing your dough and adjusting accordingly to get the desired results. That said, we can suggest a few adjustments. A good starting place is to lower the proofing temperature by a few degrees. You can also try shortening the bulk fermentation time (and shortening times between folds if necessary). Let us know if you are still having over-proofing issues.

Brod & Taylor

question about “Part II — How to Make Sourdough More (or Less) Sour” What kind of wheat flour is “high-extraction wheat flour”?What is “Rise Temperature”? is the same as bulk/first fermentation?“The most effective factors for controlling acidity in sourdough are-2) the choice of temperature (warmer for more acid, cooler for less)” are these factors about the starter or the dough? You use the term “sourdough”, but sounded like you are talking about the factors of the starter since the first factor is “the degree of ripeness”. It would be good if you could include the water temperature in the information as well. There are a lot of beginners out there, including me. much appreciated all the informations.

Austin

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Austin – High-extraction wheat flour is whole-grain wheat flour with some of the bran sifted out. It is not quite whole wheat flour- you can think of it as a cross between white flour and whole wheat flour. If you can’t find any to purchase, high-extraction flour can be made easily at home by passing whole wheat flour through a fine strainer to remove the larger bran flakes. Others will simply add a small percentage of whole wheat flour to their white flour.Rise temperature- we are referring to bulk fermentation/first fermentation.The first factor, maturity, we are referring to is the starter only. However, the longer a dough ferments, the more sour it will become. Temperature and choice of flour can be applied to both starter and dough.We did not include water temperature, but we did include fermenting/proofing temperatures. Ideally, you use a water temperature to allow your starter and/or dough to be at the desired fermentation temperature. So, your water should be around the same temperature as the temperatures listed in the chart.Thank you for taking the time to provide feedback! We made a few changes to the language to clarify the information.

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Part II — How to Make Sourdough More (or Less) Sour? ›

To achieve a “more sour” bread, it's important to add a larger quantity of acid and acid producers to the main dough. For the “less sour” loaf, using a small percentage of levain not only limits the amount of acid in the loaf but also slows down fermentation.

What makes sourdough more or less sour? ›

The fermentation temperature probably plays the most important role in sourdough baking. Warmer temperatures encourage lactic acid production making your bread less sour. Cooler temperatures (such as room temperature) on the other hand favor acetic acid production and make your sourdough more sour.

How do I make my sourdough starter more -( or less )- sour? ›

  1. For milder sourdough: Use less whole wheat and less rye, or consider sifting the bran out of whole wheat flour to create high-extraction flour. ...
  2. For more tang: Incorporate some rye flour and/or whole wheat flour early in the bread-making process, such as when feeding the mother culture and the preferment.

What makes sourdough sour dough? ›

Sourdough is naturally leavened bread, which means it doesn't use commercial yeast to rise. Instead, it uses a 'starter' – a fermented flour and water mixture that contains wild yeast and good bacteria – to rise. This also produces the tangy flavour and slightly chewy texture you'll find in sourdough.

How do you increase sourdough strength? ›

You can develop dough strength by kneading the dough or trough stretch and fold during bulk fermentation. Laminating the dough is another method. You can also use flour with higher protein content.

What is the secret behind the sour of sourdough bread? ›

First, the production of lactic acid (as well as acetic acid) lowers the pH of your starter to around 3.5 (and as high as 5). This lowering of pH results in that characteristic sour flavor of sourdough. Second, a low pH eliminates unwanted pathogens like enterobacteria or Staphylococcus.

What is the secret to sourdough? ›

The secret to sourdough is simple: water. The more water you add to your dough will affect how open the crumb (bigger holes and softer texture) will be once it's baked.

What happens if you put too much sourdough starter in your dough? ›

If you have too much starter compared to the additional flour and water you're adding, your hungry starter consumes all the nutrients and then it's not as bubbly.

What to do if your starter is too sour? ›

My starter is very acidic. How can I de-acidify it? Try feeding your starter a high feeding ratio (e.g., 1:5:5) and discard and refeed right after the starter rises and peaks. This is known as the “peak-to-peak” method.

Does citric acid make sourdough more sour? ›

In fact many storebought sourdough breads list vinegar as an ingredient and may be just yeasted bread with acidity added. Hack: Citric acid, ascorbic acid, and others. Like ACV, adding powdered acids can simply add sour flavor to bread.

What can you add to sourdough to make it more sour? ›

Try adding whole grains

Like our Fine or Coarse Rye Flour or Heritage Whole Wheat Flour - whole grains contain complex carbohydrates. These help the acetic acid-producing bacteria gobble up more sugars which produces a more sour loaf.

Should I stir my sourdough starter between feedings? ›

stir your starter in between feedings - try stirring it twice in between feedings and really give it a chance to get oxygen into the mix. This will help to activate your starter without too much effort.

Why discard sourdough starter? ›

To keep your sourdough starter healthy, you need to provide it with fresh flour and water on a schedule. Each time you refresh (feed) your starter, you must discard some of the fully-fermented mixture in the jar. Discarding helps keep the acidity low in your sourdough culture, which keeps it strong and healthy.

How many times should you stretch and fold sourdough bread? ›

In every sourdough bread recipe, you'll find at least one set of stretch and folds during bulk fermentation. They are called sets because you typically perform four stretches and four folds during this process, one in each direction of the dough – so, North, South, East, and West.

Can you let sourdough rise overnight on the counter? ›

You can cold ferment or cold proof your sourdough overnight because the cold temperature of the fridge stops the dough from over fermenting. If you were to leave your shaped dough on the counter overnight, you'd wake up to a soupy mess (unless it was freezing in your home).

What is the best strong flour for sourdough? ›

Sourdough Flours - The best flour for making Sourdough
  • Matthews Cotswold Churchill Strong White Bakers Flour 16kg. ...
  • Matthews Cotswold Organic Premium Wholemeal Flour. ...
  • Matthews Cotswold Organic Stoneground Wholemeal Bread Flour 1.5kg, 4.5kg & 7.5kg. ...
  • Matthews Cotswold Organic Strong White Bread Flour 1.5kg, 4.5kg & 7.5kg.

Does salt make sourdough more sour? ›

Salt inhibits the acid producers more than the yeast, which means that once the levain is mixed into the main dough, the ability to produce acid is somewhat diminished. To achieve a “more sour” bread, it's important to add a larger quantity of acid and acid producers to the main dough.

How do you know if sourdough is strong enough? ›

How do I know when my sourdough starter is ready?
  1. Frothy on top = ready! ...
  2. Starter, flour and water just stirred together. ...
  3. Wheat sourdough starter 24 hours after new flour and water added. ...
  4. If it floats, it's ready to use. ...
  5. If it sinks it is not ready to use OR it's past it's peak.

What makes sourdough better? ›

Because of the organic acids produced by the Lactobacillus bacteria, sourdough has a lower pH than standard bread. This not only gives it a desirable “sour” flavor and longer shelf-life, but also makes the bread kinder to your gut (Marti, et al., 2015; Siepmann, et al., 2018).

Why is sourdough bread light in texture and tastes slightly sour? ›

(b) Sourdough bread is light in texture and tastes slightly sour. The bread is made using two types of microorganism, a yeast and a bacterium. The bacterium can make acids such as lactic acid. The acid makes the bread taste sour.

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